Reply With QuoteExcellent info :) Thank you.
I've withnessed ConeKiller proving what you just said. :D
911, M3 and Civic Si Suspension Commonalities
What do a Porsche 911, BMW M3, Subaru WRX, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Porsche Boxster, Mini Cooper, Audi TT, Toyota MR2 Spyder and Mazda Prot
Excellent info :) Thank you.
I've withnessed ConeKiller proving what you just said. :D
Good write up!
So many people poo-poo on Honda's choice for going with MacPherson struts instead of the old A-arm suspension... I don't see anything wrong with MacPherson struts, and evidently, neither does BMW or Porsche!
One thing MacPherson struts do to improve handing is, by nature of their packaging advantage, is allow carmakers to place the wheels closer to the front and rear resulting in less overhang. Overhang is the difference between overall length and the wheelbase of a car (the distance between front and real axles).
Obviously, long wheelbase/short overall length cars have a handling advantage over shorter wheelbase cars of the same length. Pushing the wheel closer to the front of the car also allows for quicker steering transition and a more accurate feel.
wow! Thanks for the complementOriginally posted by BlasTech
Excellent info :) Thank you.
I've withnessed ConeKiller proving what you just said. :D
one thing you're forgetting is that almost all of those cars are RWD or AWD. The Si is FWD with struts...thats why its crappier.
The Mini is FWD, as is the Mazdaspeed Protege (not on that
list, but a lot of people have said it is comparable, if not better,
than the ITR in terms of handling), which also uses MacPherson
struts.
Very cool write up - I never was too clear on the differences
in these suspension...
Those cars come better equiped for "handling" tests
i.e. tires
Number 8 (mp3, Mazdaspeed with out the turbo) is the predecessor to the Mazdaspeed.Originally posted by andy
The Mini is FWD, as is the Mazdaspeed Protege (not on that
list, but a lot of people have said it is comparable, if not better,
than the ITR in terms of handling), which also uses MacPherson
struts.
Very cool write up - I never was too clear on the differences
in these suspension...
I agree Dunrick, if our cars came equipped with better tires our handling and braking would drastically improve and the car would have had much better reviews.
A+
I give you an A+ on this write up. Well thought out and well researched. Any suspension can be great. You have to figure the geometry also. It is all in the placement of the strut and the spring of how good it will hold the vehicle and absorb shock. The same spring will create two different levels of damping on a 2 different cars. Millimeters make huge differences on full set up cars like Indicars. The adjustment screws for the front spoilers move like 1/2 millimiter incriments per full turn if i remember right.
One single change on a car can make a regular car ride on rails.
Well done!! Good info man! :)
Superb write up. You made your point very clearly without bashing anyone or anything.
AGREE!Originally posted by Gasp23
Superb write up. You made your point very clearly without bashing anyone or anything.
I told you your name is getting popular...Originally posted by Cone Killer
wow! Thanks for the complement
Surprise, awsome hands down right up. Damn good job. I however have to move this to suspension, since that's what it deals with, hope no one minds...I'll also sticky this :)
subaru sti wrc car:
Suspension Front MacPherson strut
Suspension Rear MacPherson strut with longitudinal and transverse link
peugot 206 wrc car:
Front : pseudo McPherson
Rear : pseudo McPherson
skoda fabia wrc car:
Suspensions
McPherson, front and rear
lets break the double wishbone myth a little more
Nice write up. This surely cleared a lot of misunderstandings I had with the suspension.
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